Bongasin tällaiset www.taloon.comista, tästä linkistä:
http://www.taloon.com/roomankivet-60-mm-kivisarja-5-eri-kokoa-harmaa/LKK-531803/dp
Näille olisi tarvetta noin 200m2:lle eli 20 lavaa, jonka paino on 26000 kg, plus reunakivet ja asennushiekat, niin koko kuorman painoksi tulee likemmäs 30 tonnia.
Joku aina kyselee, että miksi en osta pihakiviä Virosta? Siellähän ne olisi vielä puolta halvempia, eli neliöhinnat Virossa liikkuvat noin 8 euron kahta puolta. Juurikin tuo lastin paino on se ongelma. Jos vuokraisin kuorma-auton, esim. joku takalaitanostimella oleva muuttoauto, ja kävisin sellaisella viikonlopun reissun Virossa, niin yksi reissu (auton vuokra + laivaliput) maksaa tonnin. Kantavuutta kyseisillä autoilla on yleensä alle 10 tonnin luokkaa, eli pitäisi tehdä kolme reissua, että saan kaikki tarvitsemani kivet Suomeen, kun painoa niillä on yhteensä liki 30 tonnia. Tällöin pelkän rahdin hinnaksi tulee sama, mitä nämä kivet maksaa Suomessa tontille tuotuna, eli tässä tapauksessa noin 3000€ (Taloon.com sivuilla 20 lavaa ostohinta kiville noin 2880€ ja rahti pikkuisen päälle sata euroa).
Tai en ole siis vielä nyt yhtään kiveä vielä tilannut, mutta tarkoitus on, että ensi viikolla tilaan nämä pois, ennen kuin Taloon.comin tarjouskampanja umpeutuu… Mutta jos jollakulla on vielä parempia tarjouksia tai ideoita tiedossa, niin vielä voi laittaa tulemaan… Ehkä minäkin ostan sitten jotain muuta tai jotain muualta, jos parempiakin tarjouksia jossain on?
Mutta eipä tuo Taloon.comissa oleva 15€ per neliö nyt omasta mielestäni kuitenkaan paha hinta ole? Asfaltin hinnat pyörivät käsittääkseni tänä vuonna ihan samoissa hinnoissa. Työn puolesta nyt kun kilpailutimme tämän kevään/kesän hintoja, niin ”suht pienissä töissä” asfaltin tarjoukset pyörivät haarukassa 12,41€ -> 15,90€ per neliö.
Pihakiviin verrattuna asfaltissa olisi toki se etu, että se tulee valmiiksi asennettuna (tai ainakaan en ole koskaan kuullut että sitä toimitettaisiin pihaan kipattuna?) Mutta pihakivissä taas viehättää kauniimpi ulkonäkö, sekä se, että ne käsittääkseni kestävät varsin pitkään. Asfalttihan pitää uusia aina 10-20 vuoden välein, koska se murtuu ja menee kuopalle. Menee toki kivetkin välillä kuopalle, mutta ne voi tarvittaessa kaivaa ylös, ja asentaa uudelleen.
Miten sitten sujuu tällaiselta amatööriltä kuin minä noiden pihakivien asentaminen? No, kesällä sen sitten näkee – ja aikaa on koko kesä, tai ainakaan omasta mielestäni itselläni ei ole mitään kiirettä, eli käytän sitten aikaa askarteluun sen verran mitä siihen aikaa kuluu. Kai yhdessä kesässä aina jotain saan aikaiseksi. Ja mitään peruuttamatonta virhettä kivien asennuksessa tai nurmikon tekemisessä ei oikein voi sattua. Toki harmittaahan se, jos ei onnistu ekalla kerralla, ja joutuu tekemään jotain uusiksi.
Hyviä ohjeita kuitenkin on netti pullollaan, tässä muutamia linkkejä:
Jos joku nyt kuitenkin haluaa vähän googlailla, että mitä ne pihakivet maksavat Viron puolella, niin tässä ehkä muutamia hyödyllisiä sanoja googlailua varten (ei välttämättä löydy ihan perussanakirjoista näitä?)
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