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Jos jotain menisi pieleen, sen saa hiekkapaperilla pois. Katselin myös mallia nykyiseltä vuokra-asunnoltamme. Täällä on pääsääntöisesti kaikki onnistunut oikein hyvin, paitsi että portaikossa ei ole kaikki mennyt ihan nappiin:
Samalla huomasin portaikossa muutaman muunkin erikoisuuden, eli ei se rakentaminen aina oikein mene nappiin, ja palaset ei näköjään ihan aina tahdo sopia kohdalleen:
No, ei noista esimerkeistä kannata lannistua, ja päätin kokeilla viikko sitten pakkelointia itsekin. Ja täytyy sanoa, että ei siitä kyllä tullut yhtään mitään.
Onneksi aloitin kokeilut ihan viisaasti kiintokalusteiden taakse jäävästä seinästä. Eli sinne nuo läästimiset sitten jäävät kaappien taakse, eivätkä jää näkyville. Muutama muu yritelmä kuitenkin jää näkyviin, ja tässä yksi:
Eli tältä näyttää oviaukon päällä oleva paperilla ja Kiillon pakkelin yhdistelmä. Paperia kun survoo pakkelin sisään, niin se leviää alta pois, pakkelia pitää tasoitella uudestaan, paperia pitää kostuttaa sumutinpullolla ja siltikin se tuppaa ”kuplimaan” eli irtoaa pohjastaan pois. Eikä se silloin hyvä voi olla. No, tarpeeksi kun yrittää ja tekee moneen kertaan, niin kyllä sen lopulta saa onnistumaan. Mutta tämän sauman jälkeen päätin, etten enää yritä näitä tämän enempää, vaan jatkan eteenpäin pakkeloimalla pelkästään ruuvien päät piiloon. Se on sen verran helpompaa, että siinä voi helposti kokea onnistumisen iloa pienellä 40 millin kapealla teräslastalla.
Eilen kävi paikkoja katsomassa pakkeloinnin ammattimies, joka olisi tullut töihinkin, ja kertoi että jos pinnat maalataan, silloin hän vetää kaikki levyt kauttaaltaan yli. Jolloin se minun ruuvien pään pakkelointi on ollut ihan turhaa työtä, koska ne ruuvien päätkin menee sitten siinä samalla, kun ylivetopakkelointi tehdään. Tällöin kuulin, että pakkelointiin onkin olemassa ihan erilaisia aineita, on eri pakkelit tasoitusta varten ja eri aineet levyjen saumojen täyttöä varten. Jälkimmäisissä on liima-ainetta enempi. Ja juuri tällainen on esim. Raptorin puolikarkea kevyttasoite, eli sitten hakemaan Starkista sellaista. Ja kun tänään kokeilin sitten sitä, niin ero oli kuin yöllä ja päivällä…
Ainakin näin aika kokemattomana pakkeloitsijana itselläni hommat onnistuu selvästi helpommin Raptorin kamalla. Ammattilainen voi hyvin onnistua kummallakin, mutta omasta mielestäni Kiillon pakkeli oli ainakin minulle erittäin haasteellista. Samalla kertaa ostin lasikuitusaumanauhaa, joka on itse liimautuva, ja jolla hommat käy niin helposti, että paperilla en enää edes yritä tehdä mitään:
Nyt sitten hommat lähti sujumaan… Tämän päivän harjoitusten jälkeen tuntuu, että tähän voisi jopa oppia! Aloitin kuitenkin yläkerran makuuhuoneista sillä ajatuksella, että ne ovat vähän sekundäärisempiä tiloja, jotka voisi tarvittaessa vaikka tapetoida, jos pakkeloinnin jälki ei ole niin hyvää, että pinnan voisi maalata. Tai sitten otetaan ammattimies paikalle, joka tekee ylivedot pakkelilla ja siihen sitten maalipintaa päälle…
Mutta tältä tämä nyt tämän päivän jälkeen näyttää:
Kyllä tässä jo voi kokea ihan sitä onnistumisen iloa… 🙂 Taas sitä on tullut opittua pakkeloinnistakin paljon uutta. En olisi ennen osannut kuvitella, että eri aineet ja eri teipit ovat näin erilaisia.
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Katto onkin varmaan aika haasteellinen pakkeloida? Ja erityisesti jos tekee sen paperinauhalla? Eikös siinä tipu helposti pakkelit ja paperinauhat niskaan, kun itse en meinannut saada pysymään niitä seinälläkään… Eli aina kun painaa paperinauhan pakkeliin, se leviää ja lähtee alta pois. Sitten saa taas kaapia lastalla kaiken kokoon ja kun tuntuu että lopulta onnistuu, niin eikös siellä paperinauhan takana olekin joku ilmakupla…
No, jos meillä seinät saadaan nyt jotenkin pakkeloitua (yläkerran makuuhuoneissa ainakin tapetoitavaan kuntoon), niin se riittäisi tässä vaiheessa. Kattoihin tulee puupaneelit, joten sinne ei tarvitse nyt pakkelia yrittää laittaa, eli se vähän helpottaa tätä hommaa…
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Itse liimasin ton paperinauhan valmiin tapettiliisterin ja erikeeperin (1:1) sekotuksen avulla ja sen jälkeen paklattiin saumat nauhan ylitse….. suht hyvin onnistu paklaus ja nauha tarttuu kuin tauti levyihin
Ehkäpä käytänkin tätä kikkaa nyt ”ulkonurkissa” joita joutuu vahvistamaan alumiini+paperisaumanauhoilla. Siellä alla on kuitenkin se verkkoteippi, joka on myös sikäli hyvä, että verkko sallii pakkelin painamisen verkon läpi kipsilevyjen väleihin. Siis jos niissä levyissä on muutaman millin rako aina joissakin kohdin.
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Ei se sitten se ”verkkoteippikään” näköjään mikään aivan idioottivarma menetelmä olekaan, vaikka pakkeloidessa siltä tuntuu, että ”nyt hommat luistaa”, kun teippi kiinnittyy itse seinään toisin kuin paperinauha, ja pakkeli tarttuu teipin ruudukkoon tosi hyvin. Oliko tuo käyttämäsi kuitusaumanauha itse liimautuvaa? Jos oli, voisin vielä ehtiä kokeilemaan sitäkin. Pakkelimerkki osui nyt mielestäni niin hyvin kohdalleen, että sitä en vaihda. Mutta jos verkkoteippi ”tulee pintaan” aikojen saatossa, niin onhan se tietysti ikävän näköinen näkyvillä ollessaan…
Lasikuitunauha vaikuttaa tehdessä hyvältä mutta vuosien saatossa ei peitä liikkumisesta johtuvaa elämistä. Yksikään ammattilainen ei suostu käyttämään tuota juurikin takuukorjauksien vuosi. Ei se välttämättä haittaa vaikka sauma aukeaakin mutta jos työn maksaa asiakas niin silloinhan ne on pakko käydä korjaamassa.
Paras vaihtoehto olisi myös koko seinän ylitasoitus esim kipsitasoitteella.
Sen ylitasoittamisen opettelua/kokeilua olen miettinyt itsekin. Ja edelleenkin, jos ei onnistu, hiomalla saa aina pois sen mitä tekeekin ja makuuhuoneen seinät voi vaikka tapetoida. Pitää sitten etsiskellä sellaista kipsitasoitetta rautakaupoista, jos se on taas ihan eri ainetta kuin nyt ostetut pakkelipönikät?
Nauhassa ei ole itsessään mitään liimapintaa, mutta tarttui hyvin tasoitteen avulla. Aivan toista luokkaa kuin tavalliset paperinauhat, joilla ei tuntunut tulevan hyvää tekemälläkään. Eikä tarvitse mitään kostutusta.
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Itse kyllä jättäisin nuo lasikuitunauhat kaupan hyllylle. Tässä nykyisessä asunnossani on käytetty rakennusvaiheessa juuri tuota lasikuitunauhaa ja sen kyllä huomaa. Todella monet kipsilevyn saumat on tulleet vuosien saatossa näkyviin. Ei varsinaisesti ole revenneet vaan tuo nauha on ilmeisesti jotenkin mennyt ryppyyn tai vastaavaa ja siten aika ruman näköinen.
Remppasin viime kesänä yhden huoneen ja vaihdoin kipsilevyt (tuli tuplalevytys äänieristyksen takia) ja käytin kuitusaumanauhaa. Eli tällaista http://www.kodinterra.fi/market/kodinterra?a_Visit:tuote=o6sl3xe1h8qa2s5o&kategoriaTunniste=TeipitSaumanauh&path=TY%C3%96KALUT+JA+-KONEET%2FK%C3%A4sity%C3%B6kalut%2FMaalausTy%C3%B6kal%2FTeipitSaumanauh&myymala=Kodin+Terra+Tuusula&paikkakunta=TUUSULA&osuuskauppa=HOK-ELANTO&pageName=Main . Todella mukava käyttää ja ohuena saumat saa helposti näkymättömiksi. Jopa näin amatööriltä. Ei ainakaan vielä ole saumat tulleet näkyviin 🙂
Itse käytin Alltek J-tasoitetta ja sillä ainakin tuli hyvä ja oli helppo levittää ja hioa.
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