Aikaisemmissa blogipäivityksessä (Bitumikermiä ja kevytsoraharkkoja) kirjoitin, että 7 rullaa Icopalin bitumikermiä Suutarilan Starkissa tuli maksamaan aikalailla, eli noin 144 euroa per rulla. Samanlaista ”Trebolit Clacier” -merkkistä tavaraa olisi saanut Ruotsin Malmon lähellä Trelleborgissa olevan tehtaan valmistamana saman määrän 82,79 eurolla Byggmaxista. Nämä rulla siis poistoeränä Byggmaxissa ja nämä tiedot nettikuvien perusteella ja netissä mainitun rullan painon perusteella, en ole käynyt Byggmaxin rullia itse katsomassa.
Nyt selvitettiin myös mitä samat tavarat olisivat maksaneet Viron puolella. Sama Starkista ostettu bitumirulla olisi maksanut Võrun K-raudassa 31,98 euroa per 10 metrin rulla, metrin leveänä. Võru sijaitsee Etelä-Virossa noin 80 km Tartosta ”kaakon kulmalle” päin, ja käydään siellä aina välillä kun meillä on kesämökki siellä.
Tämäkään 31.98€ ei ole vielä kaikkein halvin hinta tässä kohtaa, vaan paikallisessa K-raudassa on myynnissä myös vastaavanlaista venäläistä bitumikermiä, kuulemma yhtä hyvää sekin, ja sen hinta on 31,60€ per 15 metrinen rulla. Jolloin 10 metrin rullaksi muutettuna rullan hinnaksi tulee 21,07 euroa. Se on jo aika paljon vähemmän kuin Starkille maksettu 144 euron rullahinta. Onneksi Starkista tuli ostettua vain anturan yläpintaan tulevat bitumit, eli vielä ehtii ostamaan kellarin ulkoseinänä tulevat bitumikermit halvemmalla, jolloin keskihinta tulee vielä melko kohtuulliseksi tässäkin.
Hintavertailu siis kannattaa, ihan jo Suomen sisälläkin (esimerkkinä Byggmax vs Starkki bitumin osalta). Mutta samoilla tuotteilla on myös eri hintoja eri maissa, ja hintaerot voi olla ihan mihin suuntaan tahansa. Eli ei se nyt aina niinkään ole, että kaikki tavara olisi järjestään Virossa halvempaa, tai vaikka olisikin, rahtimaksut lisättynä saman tavaran voi siltä saada Suomesta edullisemmin.
Ruokakaupassakin esim. kahvi ja sokeri ovat Suomessa aina halvemmat mitä Virossa, samoin kuin tölkkiin pakattu maito, diesel maksaa molemmissa maissa saman verran (hintero Viron hyödyksi max 10 eurosenttiä), mutta bensa on Virossa halvempaa kuin Suomessa.
Suomalaiselle rakentajalle sepeli on halvempaa kuin virolaisen rakentajan ostama sepeli, mikä johtuu siitä että sepeli tuodaan Viroon Suomesta, tai tehdään paikan päällä esim. peltokiviä murskaamalla. Kova kallio on Virossa Tallinnan kohdalla 170 metrin syvyydessä ja Etelä-Virossa kallioperän päällä on noin 300 metriä moreenia ja muuta tavaraa. Eli kalliolouhoksia Virossa ei ole missään, paitsi palavan kiven, liuskekiven ja hiekkakiven yms. pehmeiden maa-ainesten osalta. Sepeliäkin kuitenkin tarvitaan, kun Virossa uusia taloja rakennetaan.
Myös viemäriputkien mutka- ja haarapalat näyttää olevan Virossa huomattavasti halvemmat mitä Suomessa. Suomessa edullisimmin näitä saa mm. Biltemasta, sikäli mikäli heidän valikoimistaan löytyy. Viemäriputkien osahinnat muodosta riippuen ovat Võrun K-Raudassa hintahaarukassa 1,96€ – 12,50€. Suomessa voi maksaa 20 euroa. Myös ruuvit, naulat ja hitsauspuikot saa Virosta oleellisesti halvemmalla.
Hintavertailua myöhemmin lisää sitä mukaa, kun talon rakentaminen edistyy.
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